From crossfire-request Tue Aug 1 02:52:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from gossip.pyramid.com (gossip.pyramid.com [129.214.1.101]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 02:52:31 +0200 Received: from t-rex.eng.pyramid.com by gossip.pyramid.com (5.61/OSx5.1a Pyramid-Internet-Gateway) id AA25926; Mon, 31 Jul 95 17:51:58 -0700 Received: by trex.eng.pyramid.com (5.67/Pyramid_Internal_Configuration) id AA01638; Tue, 1 Aug 95 00:51:32 GMT From: "Mark Wedel" Message-Id: <9507311751.ZM1636@t-rex.eng.pyramid.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 17:51:31 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Michael B. Martin" "Server List?? and questions" (Jul 31, 4:10pm) References: <199507312010.QAA02030@sps1.phys.vt.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Subject: Re: Server List?? and questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: RO On Jul 31, 4:10pm, Michael B. Martin wrote: > Subject: Server List?? and questions > Now, a question addressed to Mark, Brian, and the others (whose names > I forget at the moment) who know about this stuff: what exactly is > involved in setting up a server? (Well, before I get flamed for not > RTFM, I am asking for info other than what is included in the docs > already.) My impression is that the eutl package is not required but > is a more sophisticated option for the client/server code. Is this > correct? What are its benefits/drawbacks (as opposed to just using > "crossclient" etc.)? Just how much hardware (especially RAM) is > needed to run a modest server? Also, I like to use the pixmaps and > sounds since I have the appropriate libs/hardware. I recall reading > in the docs somewhere that the server does not currently support > "exporting" the pixmap data to a client, so each client would have to > have their own copy of the pixmaps (and sounds) if they want to use > them, right? (I would think it would be too much of a load to export > that stuff anyway.) Just how much load (I am mostly concerned about > RAM, which I won't have the money to upgrade for a few months at > least) does a client add? Does it depend on whether the clients are > using pixmaps and/or sounds? Can I reasonably expect to run a modest > server (say, up to 4 people at once) on a 16 MB machine (about 13 MB > of "usuable" memory after kernel, daemons, gettys, shells, etc. are > loaded)? > > -Michael > > >-- End of excerpt from Michael B. Martin Setting up a server is quite easy. It is little more than compiling the server program (and that should be pretty easy), and unpacking all the maps. The eutl program is needed for the new client/server model. This is not quite complete, the main deficiency that I know of is that that the new client will only use XPM images, and does not support the magic mapping command. There are also some issues that do need to be worked out (what to do on lost connections, what to do when the socket data overflows, etc.) The benefits of the new client will hopefully be it using less bandwidth, and just a separation of the graphics code from the server. The normal client (which really isn't a client, it is just a front end), can use either font, pixmap, or xpm images.) The 'benefit' of this is that it is quite simple, and is well tested. Hardware: You probably need about 30 megs or so of disk space (to compile and for the maps. Maps right now are about 14 megs if you store then uncompressed.) I wouldn't run a server on anything less than 16 megs of ram, but I suppose you could run it on 8. I would probably have at least 30 megs of swap also. The current client/server model will send xpm/pixmap over the line - if this is a modem line, it can take 20-30 minutes to transfer xpm data at 14.4. However, each time a player starts, this needs to be resent. Hopefully, at some point in the future, the new client will actually buffer/store this information for future use. One advantage of the new client is that it starts up much quicker (sends xpm images as needed.) Sounds are not sent, so if someone wants to play with sounds, they will need to have local copies (however, if that person has rplayd set up properly, that is not totally true) Sounds really don't add much to ram requirements to the server. I am not sure how much each player adds - it is not a simple answer for this reason: Normally, the server will swap out maps that people are not on. If you have several people playing, it is much more likely that several maps will be in use at the same time, and this is what will increase the space. At some point, you probably reach a saturation level (several people will be on the same map.) The server does have a 'malloc' command, which tells you how much memory it is using. -- --Mark From crossfire-request Mon Jul 31 22:26:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from maud.ifi.uio.no (0@maud.ifi.uio.no [129.240.74.2]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 22:26:22 +0200 Received: from sps1.phys.vt.edu (sps1.phys.vt.edu [128.173.176.53]) by maud.ifi.uio.no ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 22:24:11 +0200 Received: (from martinm@localhost) by sps1.phys.vt.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA02030 for crossfire@ifi.uio.no; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 16:10:54 -0400 From: "Michael B. Martin" Message-Id: <199507312010.QAA02030@sps1.phys.vt.edu> Subject: Server List?? and questions To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 16:10:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2317 Status: RO > Hello! I've just started playing Crossfire. I have a few questions. I > have a server list dated 6/16/95 Only 2 of the servers on the list > seem to be active. The one at Berkeley seems to crash alot :( any > ideas?? also does anyone know of other servers?? Are there any tips Well, the only server I've been able to connect to is the Berkeley one, and it was very slow even during non-peak hours. Now that I have a decent machine of my own (Pentium 90 running ELF Linux, 16 MB RAM, PCI Ethernet, plenty of disk), I am thinking of starting my own server (based in Blacksburg, VA (USA)). Is anyone interested? I know *I* am tired of playing by myself. But note that I won't have an active Ethernet connection for my machine until some time in August (at the earliest). And I do intend to get some (computational) work done on this machine, so I may have to restrict the games hours somewhat if the load is too high. Now, a question addressed to Mark, Brian, and the others (whose names I forget at the moment) who know about this stuff: what exactly is involved in setting up a server? (Well, before I get flamed for not RTFM, I am asking for info other than what is included in the docs already.) My impression is that the eutl package is not required but is a more sophisticated option for the client/server code. Is this correct? What are its benefits/drawbacks (as opposed to just using "crossclient" etc.)? Just how much hardware (especially RAM) is needed to run a modest server? Also, I like to use the pixmaps and sounds since I have the appropriate libs/hardware. I recall reading in the docs somewhere that the server does not currently support "exporting" the pixmap data to a client, so each client would have to have their own copy of the pixmaps (and sounds) if they want to use them, right? (I would think it would be too much of a load to export that stuff anyway.) Just how much load (I am mostly concerned about RAM, which I won't have the money to upgrade for a few months at least) does a client add? Does it depend on whether the clients are using pixmaps and/or sounds? Can I reasonably expect to run a modest server (say, up to 4 people at once) on a 16 MB machine (about 13 MB of "usuable" memory after kernel, daemons, gettys, shells, etc. are loaded)? -Michael From crossfire-request Mon Jul 31 01:38:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from cash.wharton.upenn.edu (CASH.WHARTON.UPENN.EDU [130.91.160.43]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 01:38:17 +0200 Received: from management.wharton.upenn.edu (MANAGEMENT.WHARTON.UPENN.EDU [130.91.162.3]) by cash.wharton.upenn.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA09809 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 19:38:16 -0400 Received: from MANAGEMENT/MAILQUEUE by management.wharton.upenn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 30 Jul 95 19:38:16 est Received: from MAILQUEUE by MANAGEMENT (Mercury 1.21); 30 Jul 95 19:38:04 est Received: from AlexisMuhly.Home by management.wharton.upenn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 30 Jul 95 19:38:00 est Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Alexis Muhly" Organization: Wharton School To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 19:38:52 +0000 Subject: Server List?? and questions Reply-to: muhly@wharton.upenn.edu Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-ID: <64D7A55E6@management.wharton.upenn.edu> Status: RO Hello! I've just started playing Crossfire. I have a few questions. I have a server list dated 6/16/95 Only 2 of the servers on the list seem to be active. The one at Berkeley seems to crash alot :( any ideas?? also does anyone know of other servers?? Are there any tips for weapon selection?? I seem to have good success with the Large Morningstar..but havent been able to locate a magical one..So I miss more often than hit! How does one drop a specific amount of gold?? say 20 instead of the entire amount. Im also curious how one obtains decent protection from Fire and Cold?? are they're Robes or special Scales that help protect against these spells? Thanks! -Alexis From crossfire-request Fri Jul 28 03:20:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 03:20:33 +0200 Received: (peterm@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/PHILMAIL-1.11) id SAA11404 for crossfire@ifi.uio.no; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 18:20:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 18:20:30 -0700 From: Peter Mardahl Message-Id: <199507280120.SAA11404@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Subject: ANNOYING bug, and fix, repeat after me: "=" != "==" Status: RO Ever notice how mystic fists would show up when they shouldn't? Well, look at the following patch and understand why: All developers please apply this patch! *** 1.1 1995/07/27 20:04:43 --- spells.h 1995/07/28 01:11:26 *************** *** 133,139 **** #define IS_SUMMON_SPELL(spell) (((spell) > SP_BOMB && (spell) < SP_D_DOOR) \ ! || ((spell) = SP_MYSTIC_FIST)) #define PATH_SP_MULT(op,spell) (((op->path_attuned & s->path) ? 0.8 : 1) * \ ((op->path_repelled & s->path) ? 1.25 : 1)) --- 133,139 ---- #define IS_SUMMON_SPELL(spell) (((spell) > SP_BOMB && (spell) < SP_D_DOOR) \ ! || ((spell) == SP_MYSTIC_FIST)) #define PATH_SP_MULT(op,spell) (((op->path_attuned & s->path) ? 0.8 : 1) * \ ((op->path_repelled & s->path) ? 1.25 : 1)) From crossfire-request Thu Jul 27 21:26:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from DAEC.ObsPM.Fr (IYv2Aw8Ub9E2fIQxKHZizFtV4ZIrQZJ6@gin.obspm.fr [145.238.16.19]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 21:26:49 +0200 Received: (from wacren@localhost) by DAEC.ObsPM.Fr (8.6.12/8.6.11) id VAA29072 for crossfire@ifi.uio.no; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 21:26:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 21:26:43 +0200 From: Laurent Wacrenier Message-Id: <199507271926.VAA29072@DAEC.ObsPM.Fr> To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Subject: distribution 0.91.9 unable to run Status: RO The crossfire version 0.91.9 is unable to run because the `treasure' file include the new skills in it and the `archetype' and font files seem not to have been modified since last time. One solution is to keep the old treasure file but the new skills will not be enabled. -- Laurent From crossfire-request Thu Jul 27 20:04:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from cash.wharton.upenn.edu (CASH.WHARTON.UPENN.EDU [130.91.160.43]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 20:04:33 +0200 Received: from management.wharton.upenn.edu (MANAGEMENT.WHARTON.UPENN.EDU [130.91.162.3]) by cash.wharton.upenn.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA16594 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 14:04:25 -0400 Received: from MANAGEMENT/MAILQUEUE by management.wharton.upenn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 27 Jul 95 14:04:26 est Received: from MAILQUEUE by MANAGEMENT (Mercury 1.21); 27 Jul 95 14:03:59 est From: "Arnshea Clayton" Organization: The Wharton School To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 14:03:58 EST Subject: Environment problems Reply-to: clayton@management.wharton.upenn.edu Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-ID: <2D4CC470018@management.wharton.upenn.edu> Status: RO Finally got crossfire-0.91.8 to install on the HPUX9000 system here. Compiled correctly too (though for some reason, if I type crossclient with no switches, it says it is unable to fix font path). I have tried to execute: crossclient -pix -server crossfire.csua.berkeley.edu on 2 different stations. One is a PC running Exceed for windows. The other is the unix station/HPUX9000 box directly. I get the same error, "Unable to add ". Is there some environmental var I need to set? So close, but so far.... From crossfire-request Thu Jul 27 18:59:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from cash.wharton.upenn.edu (CASH.WHARTON.UPENN.EDU [130.91.160.43]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 18:59:43 +0200 Received: from management.wharton.upenn.edu (MANAGEMENT.WHARTON.UPENN.EDU [130.91.162.3]) by cash.wharton.upenn.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA14265 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 12:59:36 -0400 Received: from MANAGEMENT/MAILQUEUE by management.wharton.upenn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 27 Jul 95 12:59:37 est Received: from MAILQUEUE by MANAGEMENT (Mercury 1.21); 27 Jul 95 12:59:11 est From: "Arnshea Clayton" Organization: The Wharton School To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 12:59:05 EST Subject: Installation problems Reply-to: clayton@management.wharton.upenn.edu Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-ID: <2D3B7CA36C7@management.wharton.upenn.edu> Status: RO I am having ENORMOUS difficulty installing crossfire-0.91.8. System setup: HPUX9000 I have xmkmf but NOT xmkmf.ansi. xmkmf works fine. Then make Makefiles finishes without errors. Then make depend works fine. As soon as I hit make install, I see a stream of text, then the following errors. Unable to find rplay.h unable to write /usr/local/X11R5/..../ I do not have root privileges. I dont even really understand how the font situation works, but that message appears about fonts in the error log each time i try to make install. From crossfire-request Wed Jul 26 07:10:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from gossip.pyramid.com (gossip.pyramid.com [129.214.1.101]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 07:10:04 +0200 Received: from t-rex.eng.pyramid.com by gossip.pyramid.com (5.61/OSx5.1a Pyramid-Internet-Gateway) id AA11087; Tue, 25 Jul 95 22:08:10 -0700 Received: by trex.eng.pyramid.com (5.67/Pyramid_Internal_Configuration) id AA11358; Wed, 26 Jul 95 05:07:35 GMT From: "Mark Wedel" Message-Id: <9507252207.ZM11356@t-rex.eng.pyramid.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 22:07:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Subject: Crossfire 0.91.9 released. Cc: frankj@ifi.uio.no, kjetilho@ifi.uio.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: RO NOTE: Version 0.91.9 is a developers release - it was only really made so that all the developers are working on the same code. Other people can use it, and if you submit patches for it, they will probably be applied. Likewise, this version probably is not any more or less stable than previous versions. sums (bsd) filename 04453 1349 crossfire-0.91.9.tar.gz AVAILABILITY: Crossfire is avaible on the following ftp sites Primary: ftp.i.net:/pub/crossfire2 (192.243.32.18) ftp.ifi.uio.no:/pub/crossfire (129.240.82.2) Secondary: yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au:/pub/crossfire (130.194.9.1) ftp.cs.city.ac.uk:/pub/games/crossfire/ ftp.sunet.se:/pub/unix/games/crossfire (130.238.127.3) ftp.cs.titech.ac.jp:/pub/games/crossfire I uploaded this version to just ftp.i.net - the administrators at ftp.ifi.uio.no should have gotten a copy by the time you see this message. Note: The ftp.i.net site has two crossfire directories - /pub/crossfire and /pub/crossfire2 The new source is in the /pub/crossfire2 directory. Mark Wedel mwedel@pyramid.com -- --Mark From crossfire-request Sat Jul 22 01:22:26 1995 Return-Path: <@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU:romance@in.the.former.USSR.ua> Received: from UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU (unccvm.uncc.edu [152.15.40.4]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id ; Sat, 22 Jul 1995 01:22:23 +0200 Message-Id: <199507212322.BAA11064@ifi.uio.no> Received: from physics1.byu.edu by UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 21 Jul 95 19:23:52 EST Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 17:19:47 -0600 To: dewy-fields@ifi.uio.no, Crossfire@ifi.uio.no, amazons@math.uio.no, modesty-blaise@math.uio.no, Serviam@math.uio.no From: romance@in.the.former.USSR.ua Subject: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) Status: RO Not to long ago, I posted a message re: meeting women of the former soviet union through romance ads. In August, Olga will travel to Moscow from her home in Kiev, Ukraine. In Moscow, Olga will have a much easier and cost efficient means to place your personal romance ad throughout Russia. Last week I received the following from Olga: "I have already sent your ad to the papers in such towns: Moscow, St. Petersburg, Vladimir, Kazan. At nearest future I will send your ad to the paper in some more 12 towns of Russia, where papers are published. Some times (in winter, spring & now) I placed your ad in other papers, but they are not most popular paper in Moscow and some large cities of Russia. Besides, I am continuing to place your ad in papers of Ukraine. I promise to place your ad in some other papers when I will come to Moscow in August. I am glad that you have received fairly many letters from Russian & Ukrainian girls and I think you will received some more ones and will find your ideal in my country soon. I thank you very much ones more for your kindness & your help. My best wishes, Olga" This isn't a scam - call it panhandling if you want. . . I sent her $40 or $50 and I've received over 45 responses. Unlike placing romance ads in the U.S., women from the former USSR respond. Although one would guess the are doing so in the hopes of American citizenship, I haven't found it so. Olga lives in Kiev, Ukraine (population 3 million) and will travel to Moscow in August to visit her father. If you were to send a letter this week, she would receive it in time. The population of Moscow is 10 million -- (3 times the size of Los Angeles.) Feel free to send a letter and ask her your questions. She will be happy to respond. Olga's address: Ukraine Kiev 253121 Dekabristov Street 5 - 178 Olga Kozmina I am posting anonymously because of the flames and volume of inquiries that would result otherwise. I think those who are truely interested will take the time to write. _____________________________________________________________________________ To: probable flamer Subject: polite note Although Olga has never seen a newsgroup nor heard of "net-etiquette," she believes that offering lonely singles the possibility of romance exceeds the cost of angering those who feel the net shouldn't be used in this fashion. IHA (I humbly ask) that you not flame the postmaster of this site. peace. . . From owner-crossfire Thu Jul 20 02:21:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from sgi1 (sgi1.wag.caltech.edu [131.215.33.4]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 02:21:19 +0200 Received: by sgi1 id AA17073 (931110.SGI/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 19 Jul 95 17:21:08 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 95 17:21:08 -0700 From: "Matt J. Carlson" Message-Id: <9507200021.AA17073@sgi1> Subject: HP 735 Makefile problem To: crossfire-bugs@ifi.uio.no Status: RO I know this is probably system dependant, but you might still know the answer. I fail on the compile of crossfire 0.91.8 in the following way: [edit crosssite.def , also copy crossite.def to top level directory... /ul/mjc/games/crossfire <- target directory to install to /ul/mjc/games/crossfire-0.91.8 <- directory where tarfile stuff is... all I change in the crosssite.def file is the install to directory.] imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/lib/X11/config [don't have xmkmf on our HPs] make Makefiles -> [error occurs] Here is the output... making Makefiles in ./common... rm -f common/Makefile.bak + mv -f common/Makefile common/Makefile.bak cd common; imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/lib/X11/config -DCrossFire -I./../.. -I./../config -DTOPDIR=../. -DCURDIR=./common; \ make -b Makefiles making Makefiles in ./doc... rm -f doc/Makefile.bak + mv -f doc/Makefile doc/Makefile.bak cd doc; imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/lib/X11/config -DCrossFire -I./../.. -I./../config -DTOPDIR=../. -DCURDIR=./doc; \ make -b Makefiles making Makefiles in ./doc/spoiler... rm -f spoiler/Makefile.bak + mv -f spoiler/Makefile spoiler/Makefile.bak cd spoiler; imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/lib/X11/config -DCrossFire -I.././../.. -I.././../config -DTOPDIR=../../. -DCURDIR=./doc/spoiler; \ make -b Makefiles making Makefiles in ./doc/spell-docs... rm -f spell-docs/Makefile.bak + mv -f spell-docs/Makefile spell-docs/Makefile.bak cd spell-docs; imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/lib/X11/config -DCrossFire -I.././../.. -I.././../config -DTOPDIR=../../. -DCURDIR=./doc/spell-docs; \ make -b Makefiles making Makefiles in ./server... rm -f server/Makefile.bak + mv -f server/Makefile server/Makefile.bak cd server; imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/lib/X11/config -DCrossFire -I./../.. -I./../config -DTOPDIR=../. -DCURDIR=./server; \ make -b Makefiles making Makefiles in ./client... rm -f client/Makefile.bak + mv -f client/Makefile client/Makefile.bak cd client; imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/lib/X11/config -DCrossFire -I./../.. -I./../config -DTOPDIR=../. -DCURDIR=./client; \ make -b Makefiles making Makefiles in ./utils... rm -f utils/Makefile.bak + mv -f utils/Makefile utils/Makefile.bak cd utils; imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/lib/X11/config -DCrossFire -I./../.. -I./../config -DTOPDIR=../. -DCURDIR=./utils; \ make -b Makefiles Make: line 386: syntax error. Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. ----------------------------------------------------- Do you have any suggestions? (Our Suns don't have xmkmf or imake, and our SGI machines give a similar error.) Am I doing some simple thing wrong? Matt -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ O O Matt J. Carlson mjc@wag.caltech.edu \___/ HAVE A NICE DAY! http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~mcarlson/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From crossfire-request Fri Jul 14 18:20:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from relay.xlink.net (relay.xlink.net [193.141.40.5]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 18:20:53 +0200 Received: from sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de by relay.xlink.net id <61087-0@relay.xlink.net>; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 18:20:38 +0000 Received: from math.uni-sb.de. (mmdf@pappus.math.uni-sb.de [134.96.32.196]) by sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de (8.6.10/v2.0) with SMTP id SAA29941 for <@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de:crossfire@ifi.uio.no>; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 18:20:39 +0200 Received: from vieta.math.uni-sb.de by pappus.math.uni-sb.de. id aa03714; 14 Jul 95 12:30 EDT Received: by vieta.math.uni-sb.de (4.1/math-SB.srv.910605) id AA04517; Fri, 14 Jul 95 18:18:59 +0200 From: Arne Wichmann Message-Id: <9507141618.AA04517@vieta.math.uni-sb.de> Subject: Hi... Some fixes, I used on my server... To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 18:18:58 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 4818 Status: RO Hi. I'm running a crossfire server over here with some patches. People can die, and be resurrected. The corpses of dead people keep 90% of the items (d.h. they stay stored in the .dead-file), so that dying is not too hard (I still think, this is a cludge, but most people over here preferred that). The rest 10% are (hopefully) correctly dumped on the floor where the player died. (This means, that if he died by fire or cold or some other nasties, the items are propably gone for good.) Corpses are no more immune to everything, to make getting back a badly damaged character a bit harder (reincarnation still works...). Our changes to the game follow (as a diff to the original). cu AW --- include/spellist.h +++ include/spellist.h 1995/06/11 15:32:21 @@ -211,11 +211,11 @@ PATH_MISSILE, NULL,}, /* 90 */ {"mystic fist", 5,10, 0, 15, 0, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, PATH_SUMMON, "mystic_fist",}, -{"raise dead", 10,50, 0, 60, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, +{"raise dead", 10,50, 0, 60, 0, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 0, PATH_RESTORE, "enchantment",}, -{"resurrection", 25,250, 0, 180, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, +{"resurrection", 25,250, 0, 180, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, PATH_RESTORE, "enchantment",}, -{"reincarnation", 20,150, 0,100, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, +{"reincarnation", 20,150, 0,100, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, PATH_RESTORE, "enchantment",}, /* mlee - Keep these spells 0 book chance, as they are low level quest items.*/ {"immunity to cold", 6, 45, 0, 10, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, --- lib/archetypes +++ lib/archetypes 1995/06/11 15:32:22 @@ -6578,7 +6578,6 @@ type 157 material 32 weight 75000 -immune 262143 end Object crown name crown --- server/player.c +++ server/player.c 1995/06/11 15:32:23 @@ -2459,6 +2459,7 @@ } } +#if 0 void loot_object(object *op) { /* Grab and destroy some treasure */ object *tmp,*tmp2,*next; @@ -2473,21 +2474,51 @@ next=tmp->below; remove_ob(tmp); tmp->x=op->x,tmp->y=op->y; +#ifdef NO_LOOT if (tmp->type == CONTAINER) { /* empty container to ground */ - loot_object(tmp); + loot_object(tmp); } - if(!QUERY_FLAG(tmp, FLAG_UNIQUE) && (QUERY_FLAG(tmp, FLAG_STARTEQUIP) + if(!QUERY_FLAG(tmp, FLAG_UNIQUE) && (QUERY_FLAG(tmp, FLAG_STARTEQUIP) || QUERY_FLAG(tmp,FLAG_NO_DROP) || !(RANDOM()%3))) { if(tmp->nrof>1) { - tmp2=get_split_ob(tmp,1+RANDOM()%(tmp->nrof-1)); - free_object(tmp2); - insert_ob_in_map(tmp,op->map); + tmp2=get_split_ob(tmp,1+RANDOM()%(tmp->nrof-1)); + free_object(tmp2); + insert_ob_in_map(tmp,op->map); } else - free_object(tmp); + free_object(tmp); } else +#endif insert_ob_in_map(tmp,op->map); } } + +#else + +#define DROP_CHANCE 10 + +void loot_object(object *op) { /* Grab and drop some treasure */ + object *curinv, *nextinv; + + curinv = op->inv; + op->contr->freeze_inv=1; + op->contr->freeze_look=1; + + while(curinv!=NULL) { + nextinv=curinv->below; + if((!curinv->invisible) && (RANDOM()%100contr->freeze_inv=0; + op->contr->freeze_look=0; + draw_all_inventory(op); + draw_look(op); +} + +#endif /* * fix_weight(): Check recursively the weight of all players, and fix --- server/resurrection.c +++ server/resurrection.c 1995/06/11 15:32:23 @@ -87,7 +87,7 @@ temp!=NULL; temp=temp->above) /* really need a better way to spot corpseobjects */ - if(temp->type == 157 && temp->immune==262143) /* corpses immune to everything, so that they cannot be destroyed. */ + if(temp->type == 157 /* && temp->immune==262143 */ ) /* corpses immune to everything, so that they cannot be destroyed. */ break; } else { temp = corpseobj; --- utils/crossloop +++ utils/crossloop 1995/06/11 15:32:23 @@ -3,7 +3,9 @@ # This is a replacement for the crosserv.pl perl script., # No point in using perl for such a simple task. -CMDNAME="BINDIR/crossfire" +ulimit -c 0 + +CMDNAME="/aw/crossfire/bin/crossfire" maxrestart=100 logdir="/tmp/crosservlog" @@ -13,8 +15,8 @@ mkdir $logdir while [ ! "$logcount"x = "$maxrestart"x ]; do - echo "Starting Crossfire `date` for the $logcount time..." 1>2 2>>$logdir/$logcount - $CMDNAME -d -f -server 1>2 2>>$logdir/$logcount + echo "Starting Crossfire `date` for the $logcount time..." >>$logdir/$logcount + $CMDNAME -d -f -server 2>>$logdir/$logcount 1>&2 logcount=`expr $logcount + 1` sleep 5 done -- Wer geteilt ist hat nichts mitzuteilen (Einstuerzende Neubauten) Arne Wichmann (aw@math.uni-sb.de) From crossfire-request Fri Jul 14 13:43:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from eros.britain.eu.net (eros.Britain.EU.net [192.91.199.2]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 13:43:29 +0200 Received: from bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk by eros.britain.eu.net via JIPS with SMTP (PP) id ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:42:39 +0100 Received: from crunch.orc.soton.ac.uk by bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Fri, 14 Jul 95 12:15:08 BST Received: from tracy.orc.soton.ac.uk ([152.78.72.9]) by crunch.orc.soton.ac.uk with SMTP (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA099610871; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:21:11 +0100 Received: From ORC_SRV1/WORKQUEUE by tracy.orc.soton.ac.uk via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.950714121206.480; 14 Jul 95 12:13:09 +000 Message-Id: From: Domino Taverner Organization: Optoelectronics Research Centre To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:11:47 GMT Subject: RE:Bugs and queries Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Status: RO Hi again, I have managed to answer the two questions I posed this morning for myself by looking into the source code. But following on from these I would appreciate any suggestions as to a good bit of armour that a 10th leveller can usefully enchant. Cloaks seem almost useless as they have no AC bonus whether enchanted or not, and it seems a bit pathetic to use two enchant scrolls to increase my 'armour' value by only one or two points. I assume bracers suffer from the same problem, I haven't been able to lay my hands on a pair this morning to test them. Since all the equipment I have is already +2 or +3 (helmet, shield, main armour) I cannot enchant them further. Am I better off just flogging the scrolls? Dom. From crossfire-request Fri Jul 14 11:56:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from eros.britain.eu.net (eros.Britain.EU.net [192.91.199.2]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 11:56:20 +0200 Received: from bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk by eros.britain.eu.net via JIPS with SMTP (PP) id ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:55:51 +0100 Received: from crunch.orc.soton.ac.uk by bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Fri, 14 Jul 95 10:25:44 BST Received: from tracy.orc.soton.ac.uk ([152.78.72.9]) by crunch.orc.soton.ac.uk with SMTP (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA095594306; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:31:46 +0100 Received: From ORC_SRV1/WORKQUEUE by tracy.orc.soton.ac.uk via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.950714102135.352; 14 Jul 95 10:23:44 +000 Message-Id: From: Domino Taverner Organization: Optoelectronics Research Centre To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:20:51 GMT Subject: Bugs and queries Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Status: RO Hi all, Well, for my first post here I thought I would start on a happy note and report a couple of bugs and problems we have found during our hacking sessions. 1) Our server crashes if a spellbook is picked up in a shop when the player has a bag set to 'active'. 2) Trying to get crossfire running under windows with vista exceed/w will crash not only exceed/w but also the server (apologies to the server in Norway for crashing it) when trying to download the pixmaps. We are running version 0.91.8. Now for a question or two about enchanting kit ( sorry if you have had to explain this 1000 times): 1) The various WWW crossfire pages around mention two schemes for the required sacrifices, etc, which of these applies to our version? 2) Trying to use an improve armour scroll I get the message 'you are not powerfull enough to enchant this armour', how powerfull do I have to be? (I'm a mere 10th level atm.). Hope this is helpful/you can help, From crossfire-request Thu Jul 13 17:42:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 17:42:11 +0200 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id IAA20543 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 08:42:05 -0700 Received: from cadence.cadence.com(158.140.18.1) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma020444; Thu Jul 13 08:41:42 1995 Received: from pluto by cadence.Cadence.COM (5.61/3.14) id AA19567; Thu, 13 Jul 95 08:41:37 -0700 Received: by pluto (5.65+/1.5) id AA14773; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:41:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:41:44 -0400 From: woodruff@cadence.com (Ken Woodruff) Message-Id: <9507131541.AA14773@pluto> To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Subject: Re: traveller's guide to the crossfire world Status: RO Simon writes: > If I was a tourist in the crossfire world, and you were a resident, > where would you recommend I go? This isn't an answer to your question, but you remind me of something I've been thinking recently, namely that it might be a nice touch to add a travel agency to the city map. It could either be set up as a room with people you could talk to or as a place to put brochures which describe certain places to go and where they can be found. As new maps are developed the developers could update the travel agency as well. For more advanced maps/quests the brochures could actually cost some money, or the travel agency could sell a ticket needed to get to the start of the map (e.g. to get on the boat that takes you there). I think that aesthetically this is superior to just listing everything on signs in the middle of town. Note that this shouldn't necessarily replace the function of the taverns as a source of information, just provide a means of getting people interested in exploring various parts of the world. The information in the travel agency could be centered around where you can go and how to get there, taverns could provide information on what to do once you're there. --Ken +------------------------+---------------------------------------------+ | Ken Woodruff | Most Latin words in -us have plural in -i, | | woodruff@cadence.com | but not all, & so zeal not according to | +------------------------+ knowledge issues in such oddities as hiati, | | Disclaimer: What tote | octopi, omnibi, & ignorami; ... | | bag full of $20 bills? | Fowler, "Modern English Usage" | +------------------------+---------------------------------------------+ From crossfire-request Thu Jul 13 10:12:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from daisy (daisy.inmos.co.uk [138.198.1.1]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:12:38 +0200 From: simonm@bristol.st.com Received: by daisy id JAA09169; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:15:23 +0100 Message-Id: <5096.9507130810@springbank.inmos.co.uk> Subject: traveller's guide to the crossfire world To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:10:46 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Hi everyone, I just wanted to say "thanks" to all those who have offered advice on how to take on large wizards - I haven't tried it yet because I've been pretty busy at work since yesterday when I sent the original message. Anyhow, I'm now looking forward to my first victory over a wizard! My next question is: what is everyone's favourite place (map) to play on? I've been doing an awful lot of wandering around, and it looks like I've been to most of the obvious places, and many of the not-so-obvious too. If I was a tourist in the crossfire world, and you were a resident, where would you recommend I go? I'm particularly interested in quests, higher-level tricky situations, and cleverly put together maps. My character has now got to 18th level, so harder maps would be better, although intersting enough lower-level maps would be cool to know about too. Why don't we put together a short list of "interesting places to go", a kind of top 10 of crossfire maps? We could even distribute the list with the crossfire source to give newbies (and not so newbies!) some idea of where to look. Contributions to the list please; I'll make sure a note of them all is taken and I'll produce a list of any suggestions. Thanks once again in advance, Sy (aka Sten the barbarian) From crossfire-request Thu Jul 13 05:29:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from bach.seattleu.edu (krisb@bach.seattleu.edu [199.237.224.11]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 05:29:32 +0200 Received: by bach.seattleu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14289; Wed, 12 Jul 95 20:28:58 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 20:27:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kristofer M. Bosland" Subject: Re: SPOILER (was Re: wizard fighting tips?) To: Ken Woodruff Cc: crossfire@ifi.uio.no In-Reply-To: <9507122245.AA14469@pluto> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, Ken Woodruff wrote: > > ----- Begin Included Message ----- > > Peter writes: > > > Wizards are completely immune to magic. Nasty. Comets work > > on them because comets don't hit with magic. [...] I've found > > it useful to hide behind walls, build directors, and comet them > > to death. > > Bomb 'em. Actually, bomb everything. In fact, once you learn the > create bomb spell virtually any monster is pretty trivial. Just drop > as many bombs as you can, run away, and wait for the carnage to > ensue. If you make it far enough in the Tower of Demonology you > actually get a pretty potent heavy rod of create bomb, so you > don't neccessarily even need to know the spell or have that many > spell points. > > --Ken If the Throwing Code ever gets built, this would be even cooler! -Kris Bosland krisb@seattleu.edu From crossfire-request Fri Jul 14 20:52:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from maud.ifi.uio.no (0@maud.ifi.uio.no [129.240.74.2]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 20:52:28 +0200 Received: from bnr.ca (x400gate.bnr.ca [192.58.194.73]) by maud.ifi.uio.no ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 20:52:18 +0200 X400-Received: by mta bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:48:05 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:16:50 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:02:00 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 19:02:00 -0500 X400-Originator: /dd.id=1627294/g=tuan/i=t/s=doan/@bnr.ca X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars735.b.326:14.06.95.16.16.50] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: re:SPOILER (w... From: "tuan (t.) doan" Sender: "tuan (t.) doan" Message-ID: <"2333 Fri Jul 14 12:16:58 1995"@bnr.ca> To: woodruff@cadence.com Cc: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Subject: re:SPOILER (was Re: wizard fighting tips?) Status: RO In message "SPOILER (was Re: wizard fighting tips?)", 'woodruff@cadence.com' writes: > >----- Begin Included Message ----- > >Peter writes: > >> Wizards are completely immune to magic. Nasty. Comets work >> on them because comets don't hit with magic. [...] I've found >> it useful to hide behind walls, build directors, and comet them >> to death. > >Bomb 'em. Actually, bomb everything. In fact, once you learn the >create bomb spell virtually any monster is pretty trivial. Just drop >as many bombs as you can, run away, and wait for the carnage to >ensue. If you make it far enough in the Tower of Demonology you >actually get a pretty potent heavy rod of create bomb, so you >don't neccessarily even need to know the spell or have that many >spell points. > >--Ken Yep. Bombs are much too powerful. It's a technology that doesn't go well with D&D even though it's TnT :) Regards, __ __/ / / __ / | / Tuan T. Doan / / / / / / | / IEC Layer Testing and Advance Technology / / / __ / / | / 2201 Lakeside Blvd. P.O. Box 833871 __/ ______/ __/ __/ __/ __/ Richardson, TX 75083-3871 "It's a kind of magic" -Highlander Phone: 214-684-4575 Fax: 214-684-3716 Internet: tdoan@bnr.ca WWW: http://47.53.64.96/tdoan/tdoan.html From crossfire-request Thu Jul 13 00:45:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 00:45:48 +0200 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id PAA14672 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 15:45:44 -0700 Received: from cadence.cadence.com(158.140.18.1) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma014656; Wed Jul 12 15:45:29 1995 Received: from pluto by cadence.Cadence.COM (5.61/3.14) id AA23602; Wed, 12 Jul 95 15:45:22 -0700 Received: by pluto (5.65+/1.5) id AA14469; Wed, 12 Jul 95 18:45:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 95 18:45:25 -0400 From: woodruff@cadence.com (Ken Woodruff) Message-Id: <9507122245.AA14469@pluto> To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Subject: SPOILER (was Re: wizard fighting tips?) Status: RO ----- Begin Included Message ----- Peter writes: > Wizards are completely immune to magic. Nasty. Comets work > on them because comets don't hit with magic. [...] I've found > it useful to hide behind walls, build directors, and comet them > to death. Bomb 'em. Actually, bomb everything. In fact, once you learn the create bomb spell virtually any monster is pretty trivial. Just drop as many bombs as you can, run away, and wait for the carnage to ensue. If you make it far enough in the Tower of Demonology you actually get a pretty potent heavy rod of create bomb, so you don't neccessarily even need to know the spell or have that many spell points. --Ken From crossfire-request Wed Jul 12 17:41:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from sps1.phys.vt.edu (sps1.phys.vt.edu [128.173.176.53]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 17:41:39 +0200 Received: (from martinm@localhost) by sps1.phys.vt.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA05280 for crossfire@ifi.uio.no; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:41:14 -0400 From: "Michael B. Martin" Message-Id: <199507121541.LAA05280@sps1.phys.vt.edu> Subject: Re: wizard fighting tips? To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:41:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1329 Status: RO > Drink potions immune fire and immune cold and use scroll protection > from lightning. That should about do it. Although your level is a bit > low to be fighting those wizards. Well, the potions work fine against fire and cold, but to the best of my knowledge, there is no way to get immunity to lightning, except maybe for a shield/amulet of reflecting (wish I could find one!). Or cheating, of course. My 23rd level elf has a helm of Uriel (which provides protection from lightning), but I still lose hp very quickly when hit by lightning bolts (dead in few seconds, typically). I tried taking on a single wizard the other day (in the "nasty house" in Brest, as I recall) and exhausted all my spell points (with a ring of Elrond and a fully charged crystal), several wands, and several times temporarily maxed out a wand/rod or two. I finally had to give up. I could have just used immunity potions and taken him on with my sword (+7), but I couldn't withstand the lightning (the single-width hallway didn't help any there). Before I try again, I will get at least one more magic power crystal (just one's been enough up to now) and make a new sword which does a lot more damage (on the order of 100 dam or so). And hope that's good enough. And keep a finger on the "heal" key in case he uses lightning. -Michael From crossfire-request Wed Jul 12 15:50:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from beyla.ifi.uio.no (3822@beyla.ifi.uio.no [129.240.96.3]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 15:50:38 +0200 Message-Id: <199507121350.PAA09197@ifi.uio.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6 4/21/95 To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Subject: Re: wizard fighting tips? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Jul 1995 13:08:15 BST." <4971.9507121208@springbank.inmos.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 15:50:37 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lars_Henrik_B=F8ler_Olafsen?= Status: RO My friend plays a level 20+ wizard. She kills wizard-monsters with comets/meteors. And she uses appx. 550 spellpoints in the ordeal. (She has 2 High Magic rings and a Int+2 helmet, which gives her 30 Int :) -Lars -- BACKUPS? We don't need no steenking bac^&sys 92595 Abort, Retry, Fail? DoD# 1755 From crossfire-request Wed Jul 12 15:36:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from castor.cc.utu.fi (root@castor.cc.utu.fi [130.232.1.14]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 15:36:21 +0200 Received: by utu.fi id <174067-2>; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 16:36:03 +0300 Subject: Re: wizard fighting tips? From: Tero Jyri Michael Pelander To: simonm@bristol.st.com Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 16:35:51 +0300 (EET DST) Cc: crossfire@ifi.uio.no (Crossfire) In-Reply-To: <4971.9507121208@springbank.inmos.co.uk> from "simonm@bristol.st.com" at Jul 12, 95 01:08:15 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 657 Message-Id: <95Jul12.163603+0300_eet_dst.174067-2+86@utu.fi> Status: RO > Anyhow, the barbarian character has been progressing well and is now > 17th level with an impressive collection of weaponry, armour, rods > and so on. His stats are all fairly well maxed out, and he's got a > self-modified long sword that improves his strength and con. ... > So, does anyone have any tips? I even checked the source of the map > I was on to make sure it was a run-of-the-mill wizard and not some > special "can't-be-killed" variety. He looked completely ordinary. Drink potions immune fire and immune cold and use scroll protection from lightning. That should about do it. Although your level is a bit low to be fighting those wizards. From crossfire-request Wed Jul 12 14:10:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from daisy (daisy.inmos.co.uk [138.198.1.1]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:09:59 +0200 From: simonm@bristol.st.com Received: by daisy id NAA05625; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 13:12:44 +0100 Message-Id: <4971.9507121208@springbank.inmos.co.uk> Subject: wizard fighting tips? To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 13:08:15 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Hi everyone, things have been very quiet on this mailing list for a while. During this quiet period I've been playing maps I've rarely visited before, and started a new character to experience the joy of overcoming your first goblin, or wyvern etc. Anyhow, the barbarian character has been progressing well and is now 17th level with an impressive collection of weaponry, armour, rods and so on. His stats are all fairly well maxed out, and he's got a self-modified long sword that improves his strength and con. Well, Dreads, Titans, even Dragons are not too frightening anymore, as long as I'm careful. But as soon as I come across a wizard, I'm stuck. I've tried everything I can think of: I've pounded them with fireballs, frostbolts, bullets; I've fought them hand-to-hand in mighty tussles that have lasted nearly half an hour before I gave up. (That wasn't one big fight - I had to keep running away every five seconds to heal up!). I do massive amounts of damage with every hit, but the wizard never seems to even notice as colossal barrages of spells hurtle my way. So, does anyone have any tips? I even checked the source of the map I was on to make sure it was a run-of-the-mill wizard and not some special "can't-be-killed" variety. He looked completely ordinary. Answers on a postcard please ... (well, an electronic postcard) Cheers in advance, Sy From crossfire-request Fri Jul 7 04:11:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from ecnet.ec (ecnet.ec [157.100.45.2]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 04:11:13 +0200 Received: from dial5.q.ecua.net.ec by ecnet.ec (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.04) id AA22327; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 21:08:52 -0500 Message-Id: <9507070208.AA22327@ecnet.ec> Sender: From: "Obando" Organization: Obando To: crossfire@ecnet.ec Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 21:11:55 +0000 Subject: games Reply-To: i2e2@i2e.com.ec Cc: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Status: RO Please can you send me some names of games and the prize of them and where to buy the game and my e-mail is i2E2@i2E.com.ec From crossfire-request Thu Jul 6 05:27:59 1995 Return-Path: <@HARVARDA.HARVARD.EDU:David@wishes.to.remain.anonymous.UA> Received: from HARVARDA.HARVARD.EDU (harvarda.harvard.edu [128.103.60.11]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 05:27:46 +0200 Message-Id: <199507060327.FAA08242@ifi.uio.no> Received: from physics1.byu.edu by HARVARDA.HARVARD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Jul 95 23:20:17 EDT Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 21:20:11 -0600 To: Biomch-L@nic.surfnet.nl, eu20@a3.xs4all.nl, SLADE@a3.xs4all.nl, dewy-fields@ifi.uio.no, Crossfire@ifi.uio.no From: David@wishes.to.remain.anonymous.UA Subject: your romance ad in USSR !" V A U@| Ol (Unverified) Status: RO ## meet women of the former USSR through romance ads ## Months ago, Olga Kosmina placed my personal ad in several papers of the former Soviet Union. Since that time I have received over 40 responses for the $50 I mailed Olga. (I believe she paid the newspapers something around $35 and kept the rest for her efforts.) I have found greater success and savings by placing my own personal romance advertisement rather than purchasing addresses through Russian "bride" catalog companies. If you are interested in placing a personal romance ad as I did, contact Olga. She has built up a list of most every newspaper and magazine in the former Soviet Union and could help direct your ad to certain areas if you wish. She writes, "please say that I place all ad _throughout_ Russia and other countries of former Soviet Union, not only Western Russia." Olga is 23 years old, has a bachelors in biology and works full-time as a florist in Kiev. She speaks, reads and writes English as well as her native languages of Russian and Ukrainian. I realize that it is a very trusting person who would put $ into an envelope and mail to a foreign country. If you would rather send a letter of inquiry first, Olga will respond to your questions. It takes about 16 days for a letter to travel from the USA to Kiev. Olga Kozmina Dekabristov Street 5 - 178 Kiev 253121 Ukraine I have found that by placing a single bill between two pieces of newsprint inside an envelope, the Ukrainian post cannot see through and does not bother to tamper. I have yet to lose a letter sent to Kiev. I am sorry that Olga does not have e-mail because it would make contact with her much easier. I am posting anonymously because of the inordinate amount of e-mail which I would receive -- inquiries as well as flames. Best Wishes, David and Olga Although Olga has never seen a newsgroup nor heard of "net-etiquette," she believes that helping others exceeds the cost of angering those who feel the net should not be used in this fashion. IHA (I humbly ask) that you not flame the postmaster of this site. peace. . . From dewy-fields-request Tue Jul 4 15:40:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mach1.wlu.ca (mach1.wlu.ca [192.54.242.17]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id ; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 15:35:15 +0200 Received: by mach1.wlu.ca (5.65/1.35) id AA14091; Tue, 4 Jul 95 09:35:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 09:35:22 -0400 (EDT) From: terry kroetsch f Subject: Re: your mail To: Olga.Kosmina@Dekabristov_St.5-178.Kiev-253121.Ukraine.UA Cc: Biomch-L@nic.surfnet.nl, eu20@a3.xs4all.nl, SLADE@a3.xs4all.nl, dewy-fields@ifi.uio.no, Crossfire@ifi.uio.no In-Reply-To: <199507040112.DAA17507@ifi.uio.no> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO sorry to do this but if I get one more of these I'll...I'll.... SCREAM!!!! Please stop! On Mon, 3 Jul 1995 Olga.Kosmina@Dekabristov_St.5-178.Kiev-253121.Ukraine.UA wrote: > Subject: meet women of the former USSR through romance ads > > > ## meet women of the former USSR through romance ads ## > > Months ago, Olga Kosmina placed my personal ad in several papers of the former Soviet Union. Since that time I have received over 40 responses for the $50 I mailed Olga. (I believe she paid the newspapers something around $35 and kept the rest for her efforts.) > I have found greater success and savings by placing my own personal romance advertisement rather than purchasing addresses through Russian "bride" catalog companies. > If you are interested in placing a personal romance ad as I did, contact Olga. She has built up a list of most every newspaper and magazine in the former Soviet Union and could help direct your ad to certain areas if you wish. She writes, "please say that I place all ad _throughout_ Russia and other countries of former Soviet Union, not only Western Russia." > Olga is 23 years old, has a bachelors in biology and works full-time as a florist in Kiev. She speaks, reads and writes English as well as her native languages of Russian and Ukrainian. > I realize that it is a very trusting person who would put $ into an envelope and mail to a foreign country. If you would rather send a letter of inquiry first, Olga will respond to your questions. It takes about 16 days for a letter to travel from the USA to Kiev. > > Olga Kozmina > Dekabristov Street 5 - 178 > Kiev 253121 > Ukraine > > I have found that by placing a single bill between two pieces of newsprint inside an envelope, the Ukrainian post cannot see through and does not bother to tamper. I have yet to lose a letter sent to Kiev. I am sorry that Olga does not have e-mail because it would make contact with her much easier. > I am posting anonymously because of the inordinate amount of e-mail which I would receive -- inquiries as well as flames. > > Best Wishes, > > David and Olga > > Although Olga has never seen a newsgroup nor heard of "net-etiquette," she believes that helping others exceeds the cost of angering those who feel the net should not be used in this fashion. > IHA (I humbly ask) that you not flame the postmaster of this site. > > peace. . . > From dewy-fields-request Tue Jul 4 03:12:10 1995 Return-Path: <@[128.110.151.36]> Received: from email.MT.GOV (email.MT.GOV [161.7.101.225]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id ; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 03:12:02 +0200 Message-Id: <199507040112.DAA17507@ifi.uio.no> X-Nvlenv-01Date-Transferred: 3-Jul-1995 17:35:37 -0400; at mhs01.ngm01 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:34:35 -0600 To: Biomch-L@nic.surfnet.nl, eu20@a3.xs4all.nl, SLADE@a3.xs4all.nl, dewy-fields@ifi.uio.no, Crossfire@ifi.uio.no From: Olga.Kosmina@Dekabristov_St.5-178.Kiev-253121.Ukraine.UA Status: RO Subject: meet women of the former USSR through romance ads ## meet women of the former USSR through romance ads ## Months ago, Olga Kosmina placed my personal ad in several papers of the former Soviet Union. Since that time I have received over 40 responses for the $50 I mailed Olga. (I believe she paid the newspapers something around $35 and kept the rest for her efforts.) I have found greater success and savings by placing my own personal romance advertisement rather than purchasing addresses through Russian "bride" catalog companies. If you are interested in placing a personal romance ad as I did, contact Olga. She has built up a list of most every newspaper and magazine in the former Soviet Union and could help direct your ad to certain areas if you wish. She writes, "please say that I place all ad _throughout_ Russia and other countries of former Soviet Union, not only Western Russia." Olga is 23 years old, has a bachelors in biology and works full-time as a florist in Kiev. She speaks, reads and writes English as well as her native languages of Russian and Ukrainian. I realize that it is a very trusting person who would put $ into an envelope and mail to a foreign country. If you would rather send a letter of inquiry first, Olga will respond to your questions. It takes about 16 days for a letter to travel from the USA to Kiev. Olga Kozmina Dekabristov Street 5 - 178 Kiev 253121 Ukraine I have found that by placing a single bill between two pieces of newsprint inside an envelope, the Ukrainian post cannot see through and does not bother to tamper. I have yet to lose a letter sent to Kiev. I am sorry that Olga does not have e-mail because it would make contact with her much easier. I am posting anonymously because of the inordinate amount of e-mail which I would receive -- inquiries as well as flames. Best Wishes, David and Olga Although Olga has never seen a newsgroup nor heard of "net-etiquette," she believes that helping others exceeds the cost of angering those who feel the net should not be used in this fashion. IHA (I humbly ask) that you not flame the postmaster of this site. peace. . . From crossfire-request Mon Jul 3 05:58:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 05:58:07 +0200 Received: (xkd@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/PHILMAIL-1.11) id UAA04258 for crossfire@ifi.uio.no; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 20:58:02 -0700 From: Kundi Xue Message-Id: <199507030358.UAA04258@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: bug verification To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no (Mailist Crossfire) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 20:57:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 141 Status: RO Could anyone verify if 0.91.8 alchemy crash the game? Also, try to charm pedestal(_trigger), it crash the game (when successful?) -kundi