From crossfire-request Thu Sep 28 15:40:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from triton.eckerd.edu (triton.eckerd.edu [198.187.214.2]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 15:40:07 +0100 Received: from acasun.eckerd.edu by triton.eckerd.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03250; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 10:33:31 -0400 Received: by acasun.eckerd.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA24650; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 10:34:49 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 10:34:49 -0400 From: roy@acasun.eckerd.edu (Jonathan Roy) Message-Id: <9509281434.AA24650@acasun.eckerd.edu> To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no content-length: 148 Status: RO crossfire-owner didn't work, so can whoever runs this please delete roy@eckerd.edu and ad roy@pobox.com? I'm losing this account next week. Thanks. From crossfire-request Thu Sep 28 12:50:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from relay.xlink.net (relay.xlink.net [193.141.40.5]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:50:47 +0100 Received: from sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de by relay.xlink.net id <06577-0@relay.xlink.net>; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:49:38 +0000 Received: from vieta.math.uni-sb.de (aw@vieta.math.uni-sb.de [134.96.32.23]) by sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de (8.6.12/v2.0) with SMTP id MAA07158; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:49:37 +0100 Received: by vieta.math.uni-sb.de (4.1/math-SB.srv.910605) id AA26763; Thu, 28 Sep 95 12:48:17 +0100 From: aw@math.uni-sb.de (Arne Wichmann) Message-Id: <9509281148.AA26763@vieta.math.uni-sb.de> Subject: Re: Container bug in 0.92.0 (and earlier) To: martinm@mbmartin.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (Michael B. Martin) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:48:15 +0100 (MET) Cc: crossfire@ifi.uio.no In-Reply-To: <199509271417.KAA12044@mbmartin.bevc.blacksburg.va.us> from "Michael B. Martin" at Sep 27, 95 10:17:09 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 753 Status: RO Also sprach Michael B. Martin: [container weight going negative] > problem because then the game generally (haven't found a pattern for > this one yet) won't let you put any objects back into such a > container. (Although you can still carry the container around for the > speed benefits. :) I am hoping someone familiar with the inventory > code might find the time to take a look at this. We experienced the problem too, but also never found it urgent to solve it. You even can refill the container if you find an object of the right weight. (The container has to have a legal weight after picking it up...) I always found it amusing. cu AW -- Wer geteilt ist hat nichts mitzuteilen (Einstuerzende Neubauten) Arne Wichmann (aw@math.uni-sb.de) From crossfire-request Wed Sep 27 21:11:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from cash.wharton.upenn.edu (CASH.WHARTON.UPENN.EDU [130.91.160.43]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 21:11:55 +0100 Received: from management.wharton.upenn.edu (MANAGEMENT.WHARTON.UPENN.EDU [165.123.43.252]) by cash.wharton.upenn.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA29699 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:11:42 -0400 Received: from MANAGEMENT/MAILQUEUE by management.wharton.upenn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 27 Sep 95 16:11:43 est Received: from MAILQUEUE by MANAGEMENT (Mercury 1.21); 27 Sep 95 16:11:27 est From: "Arnshea Clayton" Organization: The Wharton School To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:11:18 EST Subject: Re: Crossfire 0.92.0 released. Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <192F41E4628@management.wharton.upenn.edu> Status: RO GET ME OFF THIS DAMN LIST! From crossfire-request Wed Sep 27 21:42:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from kaukau.comp.vuw.ac.nz (kaukau.comp.vuw.ac.nz [130.195.5.20]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 21:41:56 +0100 Received: from debretts.comp.vuw.ac.nz (debretts.comp.vuw.ac.nz [130.195.8.46]) by kaukau.comp.vuw.ac.nz (8.6.B/8.6.9-VUW) with ESMTP id IAA02419; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 08:41:25 +1200 From: Stephen Wray Received: (stevew@localhost) by debretts.comp.vuw.ac.nz (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA18132; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 08:41:41 +1200 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 08:41:41 +1200 Message-Id: <199509272041.IAA18132@debretts.comp.vuw.ac.nz> To: martinm@mbmartin.bevc.blacksburg.va.us CC: crossfire@ifi.uio.no In-reply-to: <199509271417.KAA12044@mbmartin.bevc.blacksburg.va.us> (martinm@mbmartin.bevc.blacksburg.va.us) Subject: Re: Container bug in 0.92.0 (and earlier) Status: RO >>>>> "Michael" == Michael B Martin writes: Michael> container Michael> weights can go negative. More specifically, emptying a Michael> container by dumping out its contents all at once tends Michael> to confuse the inventory system and ends up with the Michael> container having a negative weight. And when they do, you just have to throw them away. Yup -- I've been suffering this too, in 0.91.9 etc. --- **********************T***H***E***L***E***M***A********************** 44. For pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect. -- LIBER AL vel LEGIS ******************************IN*LVX********************************* Stephen Wray From crossfire-request Wed Sep 27 16:19:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from strauss.udel.edu (gcGTiyDzNsl6wEZsnlyfmplBG3AfMnRr@strauss.udel.edu [128.175.13.74]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:19:02 +0100 Received: (from flaregun@localhost) by strauss.udel.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA11304; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:18:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:18:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Ed Phillips To: simonm@bristol.st.com cc: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Subject: Re: Crossfire 0.92.0 released. In-Reply-To: <20972.9509271248@springbank.inmos.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO On Wed, 27 Sep 1995 simonm@bristol.st.com wrote: > I've been meaning to get around to this for a while, but never have until now. > The README lists platforms that crossfire is known to compile under. I'd like to > add that I've had crossfire compile successfully on many different sun platforms, > including SPARCtsation 20's, classics, IPXs, 5s etc. This is with Solaris versions > 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4. Compiles straight out of the box now we've got our Imake templates > straight here. This is with X11R5, and we'll try X11R6 soon. Just done v0.92.0 and > that's all compiled fine too. > > Cheers, > > Simon > Did you use /opt/SUNWspro/bin/cc? Also, did you link with /usr/openwin/lib/libX... stuff? Just checking. Thanks, Ed +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ed Phillips University of Delaware (302) 831-6082 | | Jr Systems Programmer, Network and Systems Services, Info. Technologies | | Public key footprint: 1C D4 AC C2 A3 D5 97 AA DB 3B D8 85 88 E7 40 B8 | | Finger flaregun@udel.edu for PGP public key | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From crossfire-request Wed Sep 27 15:16:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mbmartin.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (martinm@mbmartin.bevc.blacksburg.va.us [198.82.204.58]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:16:28 +0100 Received: (from martinm@localhost) by mbmartin.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA12044 for crossfire@ifi.uio.no; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:17:09 -0400 From: "Michael B. Martin" Message-Id: <199509271417.KAA12044@mbmartin.bevc.blacksburg.va.us> Subject: Container bug in 0.92.0 (and earlier) To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:17:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1347 Status: RO I've been running 0.92.0 (with Brian's excellent skills patches) and find it to be a very definite improvement (thanks to all the coders!). But there is one nagging problem which I believe has been around for a while (I've seen it in 0.91.8 or earlier) and which has been cropping up a lot recently on my machine: container weights can go negative. More specifically, emptying a container by dumping out its contents all at once tends to confuse the inventory system and ends up with the container having a negative weight. This has occured for sacks, pouches, and a Luggage (I am guessing it could occur for all containers, though). The sacks and pouches were not magical, but the Luggage obviously is. This may not be related, but I've noticed that a lot of the time this problem happens when the container initially is storing many items (especially lots of light objects, like scrolls), leading me to hypothesize that perhaps there's some cumulative round-off error occuring somewhere. I say that this is a problem because then the game generally (haven't found a pattern for this one yet) won't let you put any objects back into such a container. (Although you can still carry the container around for the speed benefits. :) I am hoping someone familiar with the inventory code might find the time to take a look at this. -Michael From crossfire-request Wed Sep 27 13:53:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from maud.ifi.uio.no (0@maud.ifi.uio.no [129.240.74.2]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:53:01 +0100 From: simonm@bristol.st.com Received: from daisy (daisy.inmos.co.uk [138.198.1.1]) by maud.ifi.uio.no ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:52:37 +0100 Received: by daisy id NAA24513; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:55:34 +0100 Message-Id: <20972.9509271248@springbank.inmos.co.uk> Subject: Re: Crossfire 0.92.0 released. To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:48:00 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <199509191115.23734.gymir.ifi.uio.no@ifi.uio.no> from "Mark Wedel" at Sep 19, 95 01:15:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO I've been meaning to get around to this for a while, but never have until now. The README lists platforms that crossfire is known to compile under. I'd like to add that I've had crossfire compile successfully on many different sun platforms, including SPARCtsation 20's, classics, IPXs, 5s etc. This is with Solaris versions 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4. Compiles straight out of the box now we've got our Imake templates straight here. This is with X11R5, and we'll try X11R6 soon. Just done v0.92.0 and that's all compiled fine too. Cheers, Simon From crossfire-request Fri Sep 22 17:32:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from triton.eckerd.edu (triton.eckerd.edu [198.187.214.2]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 17:32:33 +0200 Received: from acasun.eckerd.edu by triton.eckerd.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA09200; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 10:35:19 -0400 Received: by acasun.eckerd.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA29289; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 10:30:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 10:30:31 -0400 From: roy@acasun.eckerd.edu (Jonathan Roy) Message-Id: <9509221430.AA29289@acasun.eckerd.edu> To: aw@math.uni-sb.de, crossfire@ifi.uio.no, mwedel@pyramid.com Subject: Re: Crossfire 0.92.0 released. content-length: 0 Status: RO Suffice to day, anytime you work on a project, ADD COMMENTS. :) From crossfire-request Fri Sep 22 00:00:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from gossip.pyramid.com (gossip.pyramid.com [129.214.1.101]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 23:59:59 +0200 Received: from t-rex.eng.pyramid.com by gossip.pyramid.com (5.61/OSx5.1a Pyramid-Internet-Gateway) id AA13579; Thu, 21 Sep 95 14:59:26 -0700 Received: by trex.eng.pyramid.com (5.67/Pyramid_Internal_Configuration) id AA04821; Thu, 21 Sep 95 21:59:21 GMT From: "Mark Wedel" Message-Id: <9509211459.ZM4816@t-rex.eng.pyramid.com> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 14:59:20 -0700 In-Reply-To: aw@math.uni-sb.de (Arne Wichmann) "Re: Crossfire 0.92.0 released." (Sep 21, 4:39pm) References: <9509211439.AA22452@vieta.math.uni-sb.de> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) To: aw@math.uni-sb.de (Arne Wichmann), crossfire@ifi.uio.no Subject: Re: Crossfire 0.92.0 released. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: RO On Sep 21, 4:39pm, Arne Wichmann wrote: > Subject: Re: Crossfire 0.92.0 released. > Apropos 0.92... > > What happened to cfclient? Tha last version I saw i still at 0.91.8, > and we didn't get it to work reasonably... > > cu > > AW > -- > Wer geteilt ist hat nichts mitzuteilen (Einstuerzende Neubauten) > > Arne Wichmann (aw@math.uni-sb.de) >-- End of excerpt from Arne Wichmann The reason I hhave not made any new releases is because no work has really gone on with it. I have done a little work post 92.0 with it, so it works a bit better. It is a bit of a problem in that a lot of the code (in fact most of it) is from Eric Anderson, and has no documentation on what it does, or idea behind it. So while it isn't that bad to do a bit of hacking on it, once you really start getting into it, it becomes very difficult, since I had no real idea what it was doing. -- --Mark From crossfire-request Thu Sep 21 17:17:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from Phoenix.kent.edu (Phoenix.kent.edu [131.123.76.253]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 17:17:21 +0200 Received: by Phoenix.kent.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA196968; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 11:15:01 -0400 From: jblidner@Phoenix.kent.edu (Blidner Jeff ) Message-Id: <9509211515.AA196968@Phoenix.kent.edu> Subject: hi To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 11:14:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 87 Status: RO hi -- COOLER From crossfire-request Wed Sep 20 01:53:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from maud.ifi.uio.no (0@maud.ifi.uio.no [129.240.74.2]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 01:53:22 +0200 Received: from zebedee.teaching.cs.adelaide.edu.au (root@zebedee.teaching.cs.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.104.27]) by maud.ifi.uio.no ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 01:53:14 +0200 Received: from bjtreloa@localhost [127.0.0.1] by zebedee.teaching.cs.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/AndrewR-MatthewD-950530-CS) with SMTP id JAA22340 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 09:21:44 +0930 X-Authentic-Sender: bjtreloa@localhost Message-Id: <199509192351.JAA22340@zebedee.teaching.cs.adelaide.edu.au> X-Authentication-Warning: zebedee.teaching.cs.adelaide.edu.au: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Subject: Re: Crossfire 0.92.0 released. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 Sep 1995 13:15:49 +0200." <199509191115.23734.gymir.ifi.uio.no@ifi.uio.no> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 09:21:43 +0930 From: Baerrach bonDierne Status: RO Do these changes fix the X bugs. Namely the game crashing if someone deletes there window ? Thanks Barrie -- T U M B L E P O P From crossfire-request Mon Sep 18 23:57:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from soonet.ca (root@soonet.ca [199.243.227.2]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 23:57:20 +0200 Received: from Sdbiron.soonet.ca (Sdbiron.soonet.ca [204.101.48.25]) by soonet.ca (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA00405 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 18:10:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 18:10:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199509182310.SAA00405@soonet.ca> X-Sender: dbiron@soonet.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no From: dbiron@soonet.ca (dbiron) Subject: Crossfire Status: RO Does anyone know where I can get crossfire that was ported for dos? Thanks, Darcy :0 From crossfire-request Mon Sep 18 23:29:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov (rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.8.43]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 23:29:41 +0200 Received: from chaupher.lhea664 (chaupher.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.8.36]) by rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov (LHEA9504/950407.s1) with SMTP id RAA23782; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 17:29:32 -0400 Received: by chaupher.lhea664 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06871; Mon, 18 Sep 95 17:29:31 EDT Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 17:29:31 EDT From: thomas@chaupher.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian Thomas) Message-Id: <9509182129.AA06871@chaupher.lhea664> To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no, woodruff@cadence.com Subject: Re: Address change... Cc: thomas@rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov Status: RO Hi Ken! > From: woodruff@cadence.com (Ken Woodruff) writes: > > 3) I will no longer have access to fancy Sun SPARCstations > on which to do X programming. This means (sadly) that > my current work on rewriting player generation algorithms, > etc., will have to be dropped. Well, I would be interested in the current work you have finished on this, perhaps I can bring/carry it all the way to completion. Also, did you ever get that idea for spell paths off the ground? Good luck with the new job, btw :) b.t. From crossfire-request Mon Sep 18 23:07:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 23:07:39 +0200 From: BongTalk@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA04962; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 16:59:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 16:59:35 -0400 Message-ID: <950918165935_22634462@mail04.mail.aol.com> To: bgedu-l@ukcc.uky.edu, campclim@uafsysb.uark.edu, research@vm.temple.edu, kidsphere@vms.cis.pitt.edu, mailserv@wcu.edu, judgenet@synchro.com, fatfree@hustle.rahul.net, vegan-l@vm.temple.edu, amend1-l@uafsysb.uark.edu, crossfire@ifi.uio.no, bisexu-l@brownvm.brown.edu, SpnARTrec@aol.com, mute@mute.com, cleopatra@cyberden.com, 72170.1753@compuserve.com, NOISEUS@aol.com, RELAPSENBA@aol.com, Darkwave2@aol.com, Soleilsale@aol.com, agrenj@delphi.com, glutton@cloud.com, patrickm@mcs.com, AGORALIVE@aol.com, TBIRD@netcom.com, editor@dirtylinen.com, batish@cruzio.com, extreme@well.sf.ca.us, zenmaster@rock.pp.fi, perre@skom.se, ecafe@cyberspace.org, net-happenings@ds0.internic.net, rferl-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu, giggles@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu, humor@uga.cc.uga.edu, casino@pobox.upenn.edu, humanist@brownvm.brown.edu, histnews@ukanvm.cc.ukans.edu, wellnesslist@wellnessmart.com, alcohol%lmuacad.BITNET@pucc.princeton.edu, addict-l@kentvm.kent.edu Subject: The Freaky Times Electronic Newsletter: For your perusal. Status: RO THE FREAKY TIMES #1, SEPTEMBER 1995 The Electronic, All-Text Journal of The Freak Show! Author: Albert Barger Editor: D. Bhaviorist WELCOME TO THE PARTY Hello gentle readers, and welcome to the first Freaky Times newsletter. This is an offshoot of our public access television program The Freak Show! There are several purposes intended for this periodical. We want, first of all, to start reaching out to people outside of our local Indianapolis market. We are also interested in finding local contacts to take the show to cable systems in other cities. Please let us know if you are interested. This written format is, in itself, a forum for the personal expression which is at the core of our freakdom, er, freedom of speech. And finally, we are offering some freaky merchandise for sale, primarily copies of the show itself. Even if you are not interested in actually buying the tapes, the descriptions in the ad copy will give you a good idea of what the show is like. "Buy" the way (just a little sublim advert for you), subscriptions to this electronic newsletter are free via the miracle of e-mail. We can also send you the newsletter free via snail mail (USPS), but please send us a couple of bucks for postage for the next 12 issues. You can contact us via e-mail: BONGTALK@AOL.COM or at The Freak Show! POB 18236, Indianapolis, IN 46218. Here's hoping that you are entertained and provoked. So, with all the enthusiasm our white suburban asses can muster, let's get this party started right! Bow wow wow, yippee yo, yippee yay (sic?) !! 1-900 F BARNEY "I love you, you love me..." Remember? Hi, gang, it's your old pal Barney here. Are you lonely, and in need of affection? I know I am. So why don't you call me at 1-900 F BARNEY? It's been a long time. Remember years ago when you were a child, and your parents left your love to me? They didn't have enough time to give you, so they left your love to me. I was always there for you. You'd pull my string, and I'd tell you that you were special, and ask you to hug me. Remember? Well, we've both grown up a lot since then, and now I need your special, mature loving. Call me, and tell me about the special grown up hugs and kisses you want from me now. I'm here, and I've still got time for you. Call me NOW, and let me give you my purple loving. It's been so long, and a dinosaur gets lonely. I can still give you love that your parents never could. I'm just aching to share my purple passion with you RIGHT NOW. Call me, and we'll talk about all those grown up things your parents wouldn't talk to you about. MAKE THAT CALL... 1-900 F-BARNEY I'm waiting... for you! PS: Al's afterthoughts on 1-900 F BARNEY. There are few things I find more rewarding than finding a way to use perverted sexual humor at the expense of an empty entertainment icon to make a serious critique of our media culture. In this case, I'm after the oft-stated but rarely actively avoided ill effects of letting TV raise your children, and the ruthlessness of commercial pandering to even our most pathetic neuroses. Barney, however, is on PBS, so of course charges of crass commercialism against his creators would be ridiculous. Of course. FOOD PHILOSOPHY Life is a constant struggle to improve our conditions and work our way up the ladder. Our ancestors proved to be a very competitive breed, placing humans firmly at the very tip-top of the food chain. It is our minimal duty to maintain the status we inherited. So, then, let me summarize my philosophical position in a series of disconnected platitudes, just right for the typical consumer of food, and other preprocessed, digestible tidbits such as daily meditations, CNN Factoids, and PETA tracts: "I don't feel right about eating a meal unless something with consciousness died for it". "I'll stop eating animals when animals do." "When eating animals is outlawed, only outlaws (and animals) will eat animals!" _______________________________ Animals think they're pretty smart They shit on the ground And see in the dark -"Animals" by David Byrne of Talking Heads Dear Newt... Newt Gingrich is proposing a bill before congress to provide an automatic death penalty for drug smugglers, limiting them to one appeal and 18 months to fight their convictions. He contends that these mandatory executions will kill so many people that the flow of drugs into the country will decline. Please allow me to respond: Newt! You are a hypocritical fascist fuck. You and yours say that you want to decrease the power of government, and leave people alone to live their own lives as they please. You all (particularly Jesse Helms) are quite happy to recognize such rights for people in the tobacco industry, for example, and indeed to give them a nice fat taxpayer subsidy to further their pursuits of happiness. On the other hand, however, citizens and taxpayers who wish to use their freedom to alter their body chemistry with substances of which you do not approve (for whatever reason) get no such recognition. There is no property more private than your own body. You oppose increased inspection and regulation of factories that dump carcinogens into the air that ends up on other people's property (e.g., their lungs), but you are perfectly willing to hire do-gooders with guns to climb up my very bladder to see if I've been smoking pot. Well, PISS ON YOU. Destroying the Bill of Rights (which, by the way, was printed on hemp paper) and mass murder of the private businessmen who sell us these chemicals does not constitute "getting the government off our backs." (Oh, now you've done it. I'm ranting and raving like an insane dope fiend.) While we're at it, let's look briefly at the well-known endemic violence associated with illegal drugs. Almost certainly this violence is the major justification you will offer for the mass murders you propose, but you and your colleagues and predecessors are the ones primarily responsible for this pervasive atmosphere of violence, and this proposal is a perfect example of why. Drugs are not violent; they are inanimate objects. The buying and selling of marijuana, LSD or even heroin is no more inherently violent than the business of distributing cigarettes, alcohol or Prozac. If lots of people want to buy a product, there will be people to supply it. Simple market economics. (I'm sure you've heard of the concept.) The violence (and exorbitant prices) come from the laws governments pass against these businesses, and the increasing ruthlessness used in enforcing those laws. Contrast the older, benign image of dope-dealing and drug culture personified by the Cheech and Chong film idiom against the modern ugly reality personified by such people as Pablo Escobar and countless domestic gang bangers. The primary difference is not 20 years of smoking pot. It is decades of demagogic politicians and their goon squads constantly ratcheting up the severity of legal penalties and the ruthlessness of their enforcement. Peaceful pothead hippies have been run out of the business, jailed or killed. With these modern high prices, there will be people selling drugs; and with this modern death penalty, the sellers who survive will be the ones willing to kill absolutely anyone and everyone who they think even might snitch on them. There's no place here for Cheech and Chong; hey, they just wanted to get high and have a good time. By the way, Newt, will your death penalty swift and sure apply to drug smuggling done or overseen by your own "intelligence" agencies, such as the CIA? Will any of your prosecutors or grand juries be questioning your old buddy, former CIA director George Bush? Of course not. About the first time some prosecutor comes sniffing around an "intelligence" operative, a couple of scary men with automatic weapons in their trenchcoats will show up muttering vague syllables about "national security," and that will be the end of it. Indeed, killing off some of the independent competition may improve your market share. Let me sum it up, then. I was real pleased to see a bunch of mealy-mouthed socialist Democrats take it in the ass, but trading them in for hard-assed national socialists like you and yours is no real improvement. This is one old country boy you ain't fooling. Yeah, you believe in freedom, all right-- freedom for everyone to do whatever you and your corporate and religious backers want us to. Gimme Liberty or Death, Al Barger PS to our readers: I apologize for the low humor quotient here, but sometimes shit just ain't funny, though I'd bet Dana Carvey could drive Newt to suicide if he put his mind to it. STUFF TO BUY Good people, we need at least a little money to finance our anti-social (or at least anti-socialist) shenanigans, but we hate pleading for a handout like some worthless socialite on PBS. We'd much rather offer you something of value for your money, such as... THE FREAK SHOW! Volume I - Shows 1 to 4 Starting with Al's classic first Bong Talk: he smokes some kind bud, and talks about his experience as a subject of a "routine" random DEA drug search while riding a Greyhound bus from Oklahoma City, reaching the conclusion that Thomas Jefferson, for one, would be advocating the assassination of DEA agents. A witty, downhome excursion into "no-no" topics, just two prescient weeks before the Oklahoma City bombing. Coincidence? Also included is a wry philosophical analysis of that country music patriotic classic by Bill Anderson, "Where Have All the Heroes Gone?", in which Bill laments the passing of real heroes such as Winston Churchill "whose two fingers raised together meant victory, not just a let-your-enemy-have-it-all kind of artificial peace." Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight! Self-connoted Jesus freak Todd Yarling sings his original Christian grunge hymn "Come, Holy Spirit." Christian fanaticism never sounded so good! And we have a puppet play, featuring the debut of Dr. Red Rover, Ph.D. from the Department of Men's Studies, teaching his how-to class, "Sexual Harassment 101." And that's just the first show! Other highlights of this two hour dogma buster cum variety show include the "social analysis as phone sex ad" called "1-900 F BARNEY." Check out Todd Yarling's biblically sanctioned immortal ode to "The Feminist Attorney," an actual song with a real melody and real-live hooks. (REM, are you listening? This is the frequency.) Also, Al shows how he handles dumb bigots as he tells his down home story describing a one-sided verbal sparring match with a local redneck in "The Legend of the 101% Rebel." Don't think we lack sympathy for the suffering: watch as D. Bhaviorist and Al mount a condolence movement (complete with sympathy cards) to aid Christians in overcoming their 2000 year state of denial of the death of Jesus, so that they can finally complete the grieving process and --at long last-- get on with their "lives". And all this stuff isn't half the tape. It's more fun than a month of Letterman, and more enlightening than a year of Rush Limbaugh. WARNING: The Surgeon General recommends viewing only one show at a time, lest the intellectual de-compression cause your freakin' head to explode! VHS 2 HOURS ONLY $9.00 (CHEAP!) THE FREAK SHOW! Volume II - Shows 5 to 8 The production values soar, the philosophical points cut deeper, and the laughs get more twisted in Volume II. D. Bhaviorist performs his composition "He's Not Lisa"," perhaps the all time greatest acapella homoerotic country and western psycho ballad. "Al's Modest Proposal for Judicial Reform" becomes a toy play as Sebastian the Crab and ET (that's ET for "Extra Trusting") explain why Christians should not be allowed to serve on juries, followed immediately by Jesus freak Todd Yarling's compelling Christian grunge adaptation of "Psalm 23." In "Pre-born Meets the One-Eyed Monster", an aborted fetus and her polka-dotted pimp offer an unassailable defense of child sex slavery: "Being a baby hooker sure beats being a Choice." Elvis makes his biggest comeback ever on "The Mark Hamill Musical Showcase" after an extended stay in a little town called Deliverance. "A DING-DANG-DO!" Al throws a Bong Talk party celebrating the anniversary of Abe Lincoln's assassination, and dares to tell why. Al says "ixnay" to Yahweh the Biblical Hitler, devoting a whole show to a "genocide special," including Biblical analysis, Al's formal declaration of political non-allegiance, an indictment of George Bush for war crimes, and of Lee Greenwood as propaganda minister for the military-industrial complex. (Greenwood's hit "God Bless the USA" gets Al so excited, however, that he finds himself wanting to "squirt a big load all over the nearest flag." But then maybe that's just the bong talking.) And don't even ask how Pearl Jam fits into all this. Oy vey! That touches on almost half of this two hour party monster. More outrage than a year of G. Gordon Liddy, more education than 12 years of public school, and weirder than a month of Pee Wee's Playhouse! (Actually, we're not sure about that last part.) WARNING: Do not buy this tape. It is bad art for bad people. Authority figures in your life will not be amused. Teachers, preachers, parents, and probation officers will be very disappointed if they catch you with this tape, and YOU KNOW THEY WILL. VHS 2 HOURS $9.00 AL'S HAIR We're so committed to our multi-media freakdom that we are willing to sell (some) body parts. Al will send you part of his hair, along with a certificate of authenticity signed by Al personally. Call for quotes on other body products (e.g., dandruff, sperm, blood, or nail clippings. Offers for the One True Cross void where prohibited) FREELANCE PROTEIN APPROX. 1 FOOT $5 GIVING THE DEVIL HIS DUE On September 12th, the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, made a visit to Washington DC. To appease the Chinese government that controls his homeland by virtue of brute force, the Clinton White House carefully held him at arms' length, and made sure that there were no pictures of the two of them together. There was at least one prominent politician, however, who was perfectly happy to be seen associating with the Dalai Lama: Jesse Helms. If you have even the vaguest idea of Freaky Times philosophy, you can guess that none of us have much use for this, uh, "person", though I must admit that he is certainly some variety of freak. Anyway, in this case he was doing the right thing, for whatever reason. For this, I commend him. PARTING THOUGHTS If only by default, THE FREAK SHOW! is associated with "the underground" or "the counterculture," whatever people mean by such descriptions. That's fine, but let us take pains here to dissociate ourselves from the common nihilism of "Boho for Boho's sake" culture. To that end, let us part with a paraphrased benediction from the most awesome, Tom T Hall: "I love coffee in a cup Little fuzzy pups Bourbon in a glass... And grass And I love you, too. Sincerely, Albert Barger D. Bhaviorist and the rest of the agitators, malcontents, conspiracy theorists, and closet freaks at 20 Rock, the Freaky Times cyberplex. From crossfire-request Mon Sep 18 22:40:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 22:40:11 +0200 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id NAA06696 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 13:40:04 -0700 Received: from cadence.cadence.com(158.140.18.1) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma006060; Mon Sep 18 13:35:14 1995 Received: from pluto by cadence.Cadence.COM (5.61/3.14) id AA12085; Mon, 18 Sep 95 13:35:05 -0700 Received: by pluto (5.65+/1.5) id AA02542; Mon, 18 Sep 95 16:35:07 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 16:35:07 -0400 From: woodruff@cadence.com (Ken Woodruff) Message-Id: <9509182035.AA02542@pluto> To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Subject: Address change... Status: RO I have decided that (at least for a while) I will be leaving my current company, Cadence Design Systems, to pursue some opportunities as an independant software developer. This implies several things of interest to at least some of you: 1) My email address will no longer be "woodruff@cadence.com" 2) My new email address will be "kpwoodruff@msn.com" 3) I will no longer have access to fancy Sun SPARCstations on which to do X programming. This means (sadly) that my current work on rewriting player generation algorithms, etc., will have to be dropped. 4) I will have access to fancy x86 Microsoft Windows machines. If I find a free block of time I might even consider trying to write a Windows client for Crossfire. If I'm really adventurous maybe I'd even consider trying to port the server?! Sorry to waste bandwidth for those of you who don't really have an interest in this, but it seemed to be the best way to tell everyone in one fell swoop. --Ken +------------------------+---------------------------------------------+ | Ken Woodruff | Most Latin words in -us have plural in -i, | | woodruff@cadence.com | but not all, & so zeal not according to | +------------------------+ knowledge issues in such oddities as hiati, | | Disclaimer: What tote | octopi, omnibi, & ignorami; ... | | bag full of $20 bills? | Fowler, "Modern English Usage" | +------------------------+---------------------------------------------+ From crossfire-request Sun Sep 10 19:20:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from egr.msu.edu (jeeves.egr.msu.edu [35.9.32.49]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 19:19:59 +0200 Received: from tennmtn (tennmtn.egr.msu.edu) by egr.msu.edu (5.x/1.34) id AA22369; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 13:22:21 -0400 Received: by tennmtn (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02246; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 13:19:53 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 13:19:53 -0400 From: cookgre1@egr.msu.edu (Cook . Gregory) Message-Id: <9509101719.AA02246@tennmtn> To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Subject: subscribe X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: RO From crossfire-request Sun Sep 10 18:35:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 18:35:28 +0200 Received: (xkd@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/PHILMAIL-1.11) id JAA03093 for crossfire@ifi.uio.no; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 09:35:24 -0700 From: Kundi Xue Message-Id: <199509101635.JAA03093@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: which image editing tool to use? To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no (Mailist Crossfire) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 09:35:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 721 Status: RO Hello! I wonder what image editing tool do you find convenient to use to edit the pixmap files and bitmap files. The one I was using was quite a pain. For images that are multiples of 24x24, after drawing the animations, I have to tediously cut it and number them; flip the cubics and number them again. I wonder if there is anyone who would like make a image making tool so that all I need to do is draw the animations and the tool cut it and number them with preset configurations. Thanks for your attentions and regards! -kundi P.S. I noticed the up right cubic of jessy_b in my crossedit monster collection is mis-matched. I can imagine the pain of numbering the cubics for this 4x4 cubic awesome creature :) From crossfire-request Fri Sep 8 16:21:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from soonet.ca (root@soonet.ca [199.243.227.2]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:20:59 +0200 Received: from Sdbiron.soonet.ca (Sdbiron.soonet.ca [204.101.48.25]) by soonet.ca (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA24914 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:31:27 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:31:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199509081531.KAA24914@soonet.ca> X-Sender: dbiron@soonet.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: crossfire@ifi.uio.no From: dbiron@soonet.ca (dbiron) Subject: Crossfire Status: RO Is the newest version out of crossfire 0.91.7. It looks like a great game, but I can't decompress the damn thing, so maybe you could tell me when you are going public or if theres a place out there where I can get crossfire thats in a zipped format. Thanks From crossfire-request Fri Sep 8 16:34:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from beyla.ifi.uio.no (3822@beyla.ifi.uio.no [129.240.96.3]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:34:05 +0200 Message-Id: <199509081434.QAA12819@ifi.uio.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6 4/21/95 To: dbiron@soonet.ca (dbiron) cc: crossfire@ifi.uio.no Subject: Re: Crossfire In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Sep 1995 10:31:27 CDT." <199509081531.KAA24914@soonet.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 16:34:05 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lars_Henrik_B=F8ler_Olafsen?= Status: RO > Is the newest version out of crossfire 0.91.7. > Hmmm ... ftp.ifi.uio.no contains: beyla ~ftp/pub/crossfire >ls README crossfire-0.91.8.maps.tar.gz archive/ crossfire-0.91.8.tar.gz crossedit-0.7.tar.Z crossfire-0.91.9-README crossfire-0.01.tar.gz crossfire-0.91.9.arch.tar.gz crossfire-0.10.tar.gz crossfire-0.91.9.lib.tar.gz crossfire-0.91.6-0.91.7.diff.gz crossfire-0.91.9.tar.gz crossfire-0.91.7-0.91.8.diff.gz eutl.tar.gz crossfire-0.91.8-README incoming/ crossfire-0.91.8.arch.tar.gz www/ crossfire-0.91.8.client.tar.gz ... > It looks like a great game, but I can't decompress the damn thing, so > maybe you could tell me when you are going public or if theres a place out > there where I can get crossfire thats in a zipped format. You 'uncompress' a .Z file You 'gunzip' a .gz file You 'tar -xvf' a .tar file (You can also '/local/gnu/bin/tar -xvzf' a .tar.Z or a .tar.gz file) If you lack any of these files, I'm sure someone can pkzip'em for you ;)